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Obama.....leader or victim?

Obama entered office with a Democrat congress and guided us like a bully. He rammed Obama Care down our throat which has since been examined by his own team to have serious flaws and will be examined by the Supreme Court to see if it is even constitutional. He led us like a crazed investor into the “green energy maze” and bungled loans to questionable companies like Solyndra which has already cost the tax payers millions and now we are paying millions more for the out of work victims from that poorly thought out investment. Obama with his control of congress for the first two years spent a trillion dollars on infrastructure and bailouts IMstupidlike General Motors and Chrysler) and still leaving us at this time with 9% unemployment…...and even worse a 100% debt to GDP ratio. Our chances of regaining tax payer billions on the car companies is looking extremely weak especially as the EU economy collapses from burdens of entitlement spending, debt and high taxes. GM sells a great number of cars in the EU and needs to keep doing that to stay profitable after the massive US taxpayer bailout.

Voter outrage took complete control of Congress away from Obama one year ago. Now, the “want to be leader” stands on the side lines and tells congress to work it out. When no progress is made on the economy, Obama blames the Republicans with class warfare charges and defends the Democrats and Left with their “tax the rich or no deal” partisan stand.
During the first two years when Obama led with maximum power…..he bungled!

And now, when there was a chance to show some compromise leadership, what does Obama do? With a stroke of the pen he could have raised “bravos” from everyone except the “extreme environmentalists” who would sell out the human race for an endangered rat! He could have signed the Keystone Pipeline and shown true by-partisan leadership!

A good leader must bolster confidence and give hope to large segments of the American society and Obama could have accomplished this with one stroke of his pen! Here would have been the positive outcome from competent leadership….

Obama would have created 20,000 union jobs instantly and many more after the completion of the pipeline. He would have expanded the partnership with our Canadian friends by increasing our oil reserves while assuring us that Canada’s fossil fuels would not go to China to be used with limited environmental concerns. He would also demonstrate that he could make wise investments in needed fossil energy as he continues his more risky support for green energy! He could have shown us all in a small way that he cares about and understands the need for energy independence until new forms of energy are perfected. And it wouldn’t cost a thing because the Pipeline will more likely than anything he has done to bring tax income and profits to our suffering economy! There are too many uses for oil in every world economy, and always will be, for Obama too play politics with this one issue…..but he did!

On a perfect compromise moment, Obama chose “no we can’t!” When he could have encouraged most of us with “”yes we can,” he continues to stumble and blame others!

Obama is not a leader. He is a victim of his socialist ideology and believing that bullying those who disagree with him is quality leadership!

Posted by JW at 11/26/2011 9:26 AM | Add Comment

The problem with belief......

I am Agnostic and believe that freedom of belief is essential for the success of liberal democracy, liberty and freedom. A concern of mine has always been the partnership of all competing religions standing together to demonize the people who are enlightened and do not accept supernatural faiths. After all, the religious are compassionate, turn the other cheek and love their enemies as they do themselves….right? I don’t think so…at least from what I see. My concern for the religious is that they are wrong and being bilked in numerous ways by the powers that control them. They should be more open to their beliefs being wrong, because they don’t have to worry about being sent to hell and should be much more concerned about the scam they are funding while alive. I do believe we should always have the freedom to follow chosen faiths, and hope with time religious believers will find enlightenment to the truths presented by reality and science.

Here is the problem. All religions are constructed by men to necessarily condemn the non-believers and join together to assure punishment now and after death to the godless ones. Religions that don’t respect or trust one another are bound together by mutually fearing non-believers, because it threatens their supernatural faith based beliefs by suggesting they should actually question their own God. What better thing could religions do than turn the other cheek and offer understanding and acceptance to the poor non-believers? What would Jesus do? Even though Christianity thinks Islam is evil..and vice-versa, they will stand together as “Brothers in Faith Belief” to condemn the non-believer. The non-believers I know are much more honest and gracious than that. Non-believers do openly fight back because the arrogance of religion is unbearable and very judgmental from those who specifically say “thou shalt not judge!”What really gets me, is that any religion that truly believes their scriptures, should easily find the strength and comfort to not worry one second about the effects of non-belief. They should respect the freedom of Agnostics and Atheists while looking forward to bliss in heaven without them.

There is nothing more convoluted than a faith based religion defending a clearly questionable belief. It is the reason religions will always fight each other…..while joining together to condemn the godless ones! there is a God…..It surely will be very angry that no one knew who It is and what It wants…or maybe It just doesn’t care?TryUsingLogicwww.TheFreedomOfBelief.com

Posted by JW at 4/25/2011 7:04 PM | Add Comment

Freedom is priceless....

We are fortunate to live in America, because so far, it has been the greatest social experiment on Earth. The reason…..Freedom! We were guaranteed the freedom of belief and from belief, the promise of the individual right to dream our chosen dreams in the pursuit of a better life and personal happiness. Freedom is a powerful thing! We were also guaranteed the priceless right to vote and choose the continuing path of our government. That freedom gives us the responsibility to inform ourselves and make the best decisions to protect our individual rights and liberties. Freedom also allows us to distort history and deny the failures by government domination, theocracies and societies that have rejected individual rights. The warning signs are everywhere …..Cuba, North Korea, Russia, Venezuela, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia…etc…etc…etc! Freedom gives us the right to choose the continuing path of liberal democracy, individual rights and free market prosperity handed us through the sacrifices and bravery of our forefathers, or opt for the mundane sameness and slavery demanded by failed attempts of authoritarian governments and forced theocracies. Freedom also has given us to the tool to socialize democracies at the expense of the individual by awarding government more and more power IMstupidEU, Canada, and USA). Freedom is a powerful thing and can be self destructive because it allows us to choose an overpowering government that can erase that freedom! Freedom does not guarantee perfect societies, but history proves loss of freedoms guarantees even worse!

And it follows, if you don’t treasure individual rights, liberty and liberal democracy…..freedom is not high on your list!

Our freedoms are priceless…..but we can all afford them! Think about that when you vote.

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Posted by JW at 4/14/2011 9:04 PM | Add Comment

Is it reasonable to question the idea of prayer…..Yes!

Christchurch Holds Prayers for Earthquake Victims“Why did one person survive and one person die? Why did the people in the cathedral — of all places — perish?”
Up to 22 people may be buried in rubble at Christchurch Cathedral, most of them believed to be tourists climbing the bell tower for its panoramic views of the southern New Zealand city of Christchurch when it was struck by last Tuesday’s 6.3-magnitude quake.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02...est=latestnews

Father Jonathan Morris on Fox News Network says Christians should pick a terrorist to pray for and change their ways! Remember, the terrorists pray 5 times a day to Allah for a completely different outcome.

Study shows prayer has no beneficial effect…..In the study, the researchers monitored 1,802 patients at six hospitals who received coronary bypass surgery, in which doctors reroute circulation around a clogged vein or artery.
The patients were broken into three groups. Two were prayed for; the third was not. Half the patients who received the prayers were told that they were being prayed for; half were told that they might or might not receive prayers.
The researchers asked the members of three congregations — St. Paul’s Monastery in St. Paul; the Community of Teresian Carmelites in Worcester, Mass.; and Silent Unity, a Missouri prayer ministry near Kansas City — to deliver the prayers, using the patients’ first names and the first initials of their last names.
The congregations were told that they could pray in their own ways, but they were instructed to include the phrase, “for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications.”
Analyzing complications in the 30 days after the operations, the researchers found no differences between those patients who were prayed for and those who were not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/he...pray.html?_r=1

How can "Faiths" look Truth squarely in the eye, without flinching?

For all you secular conservatives out there....join me in conversation at www.theFreedomOfBelief.com and www.theFreedomOfBelief.com/wordpress

John Wagner/TryUsingLogic

Posted by JW at 2/27/2011 7:30 PM | Add Comment

Do Religions understand their dilemma?

Democracies like ours offer freedom of belief to their citizens. Left wing Dictatorships promote the denial of gods and the idolization of earthly "Dictator Gods," and to maintain that power they enslave, starve and kill their followers. Theocracies defend their chosen God and use their powers to belittle, threaten and enslave those who do not believe as they do.

The beauty of America is our forefathers established a foundation to protect freedom of belief and not endorse any religion within the government.

It amazes me that the diverse selection of religions in America cannot understand the importance of separation of church and state. All religions have the underlying theme that the world would be better if their scriptures and dogma dominated everyone's life and controlled the law of the land.

As a non-believer I always stand firm for the rights of all of us to believe what we choose. I never demonstrate or protest to remove the rights of anyone's choice to believe. I feel that true freedom to believe is the only path to educating and enlightening those who have open minds. It is a slow path but the absolute freedom to believe without government interference is the only path to the liberation of mankind from fictitious gods. And I think religions are, down deep, terrified by that freedom!

When religions deny separation of church and state, they endanger their freedom and survival!

I believe that to much government control, or too much religion is dangerous.

What do readers think?

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Posted by JW at 1/20/2011 7:54 PM | Add Comment

Is non-belief in gods or religions a "faith or religion?"

I want to discuss this based on accepted religious definitions….

When arguing with believers they always accuse me of participating in a “faith” that there is no God?

Webster’s definition of “faith”…

a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust

Websters definition of “religion”…

1a : the state of a religious religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance doctrines of a religion and disbelieve in something for which there is no proof.

2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

If I have disbelief and non-trust in God, isn’t it obvious that I am not practicing any “faith?”

I do not attend meetings to confirm that everyone who believes differently than me are going to hell or suffer miserably for eternity. I simply disbelieve in Gods men offer me, do not accept traditional

I do not have a faith or religion. I simply trust in science, logic and reason. No religious faith here.

I’d like to here what other Newsvine readers think?

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Posted by JW at 1/16/2011 9:52 PM | Add Comment

A terrible tragedy…..another God delusion!

After I watched Bill O’Reilly give the lamest reason I have ever heard for believing in God….You know….the tides roll in….the tides roll out….it couldn’t happen without God, I must speak my mind about the sad and terrible incident in Tucson. And it is a fact....Science has clearly proven what causes tides….come on Bill!

At the first reporting of the shooting incident aimed at killing Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, FNC was commenting on one of Jared Lee Loughner’s last statement as being he did not “trust in God.” As opposed to the terrorists who flew planes into the Twin Towers because they trusted totally in their God, it seems like a moot point. As a non-believer it get’s old when every religion jumps up to spin their version of reasons for a sad act by a deranged person. Hearing that it was a miracle of God that Rep. Giffords was shot through the skull and might survive [with brain injuries] when 6 others including a 9 year old girl were dead with 13 others seriously injured is just about as god delusional as it can get. If God was there and taking time to help, why didn’t God place a qualified and brave policeman or citizen right behind Loughner to stop him? The reason believers keep saying that God works in strange ways is because they can’t explain or understand one single action they credit to the chosen god they can never validate! That’s why there are 10,000 religions that can’t agree on anything except their common struggle to prove that non-believers are fools!

People have the freedom and right to believe in any god they choose, but making silly scenarios about why God did a miraculous thing defies reality and common sense! If a God did anything in this senseless murder, it was by enabling the killer to get off his shots and harm so many people without protecting, in any way, the victims that believe and worship It!

There is mightiness about America, and it is not about a god. It is about the freedom and democracy we are so fortunate to have!

It seems like some gods are always one step late preventing trajedy, and other gods are out there enabling the destruction of any hope for good…… FOR GOD SAKES, GET REAL!

My 102 year old Mom always told me the story about her brother that missed a bus in WWII and it was destroyed by a bomb a few minutes later. Her brother said Jesus was protecting him…my Mom always said….”What was Jesus doing for the 40 soldiers on the bus that were killed?"

It’s time religions get back down to Earth!

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Posted by JW at 1/10/2011 6:57 PM | Add Comment

Obama the Pompous!

BO promised hope and change…….he lied on hope…delivered on hopeless change!

BO wrote about the “Audacity of Hope”…and brought us the “Audacity of Big Government”

BO promised an open government……and closed the doors to reason!

BO talked of miracles…..and stumbled around in naivety!

BO said we should work together….blames Conservatives for his failure!

BO said we could work together….today says Conservatives should sit in back!

BO demands we should live healthy…..and continues to smoke and stuff his face with fatty foods!

BO discarded Rev. Wright……BO is a mirror image of Jeremiah.

BO promised us Health Care…..and gave us Health Scare!

BO deserves an A$$ kicking…..he’s going to get it this November!

BO has been a Big Letdown!

BO is telling Latinos to vote Democrat to stop our “ENEMIES!”

BO does not know who are enemies are!

So much for Utopian Socialist Dreamers!

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Posted by JW at 10/26/2010 7:56 PM | Add Comment

Wake up America! Entitlements, Socialism....Utopian dreaming!

http://4press.biz/protests-in-france-against-retirement-age-raise-go-the-violent-way/1814/

The Liberals always praise France.......can't America see this train coming?

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Posted by JW at 10/20/2010 7:17 AM | Add Comment

Is Obama too arrogant and naive to see his failures?

Obama promised us hope and change......but he did not say things would get worse.

Obama said the war in Afghanistan was the right war.....Woodward says his heart isn't in it except for political purposes! Where is Vietnam Kerry to complain about all the needless loss of our soldiers as pawns in a political game?

The media that loved BO is saying his regime manipulated data about BP to make things not look so bad.

Obama and Obama want to tell us how to live healthy......BO still smokes....give me a break!

The majority of Ameicans do not want his health bill.....and he still arrogantly believes he is right on track!

There is great support that the Bush Tax cuts should be extended for everyone....BO doesn't get it.

BO's staff is falling apart.......running like scared jack rabbits!

BO blames the conservatives........and only 20% of America claims tobe Liberal....BO is out of touch!

BO has created no jobs and given us the largest deficits of all time!

Our projected taxes for his incompetence our astronomical.

BO can't see he is failing........He says we just don't understand....The Democrat candidates that ran against him said he was naive and inexperienced........how right they were!

The arrogance and denial of the typical Liberal......America got it with BO!

America looked to BO for change and got a Washington Big Government Liberal Democrat.....and the usual corruption!

The November elections offer hope for change......Isn't America a great place!

The Liberals on Newsvine must be very nervous......and that gives me a good feeling! After all they are in the minority of America.

I bet BO is smoking 3 packs a day by now......too bad......if he could just use the power of logic and reason.

Obama blames it on the conservatives.......and all the while he is losing moderate democrats and independents....

Big Government Socialism is, and will always be a failed system.....the majority of America knows that fact!

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Posted by JW at 10/11/2010 9:21 PM | Add Comment

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Obama.....leader or victim?

The problem with belief......

Freedom is priceless....

Is it reasonable to question the idea of prayer…..Yes!

Do Religions understand their dilemma?

Is non-belief in gods or religions a "faith or religion?"

A terrible tragedy…..another God delusion!

Obama the Pompous!

Wake up America! Entitlements, Socialism....Utopian dreaming!

Is Obama too arrogant and naive to see his failures?